It can also happen that there are changes in your love life when the Vertex is triggered in your birth chart by some transiting planet or progression. Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! Would an eighth house overlay make these destructive or strengthen ? I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. They made my day, Jeanie. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. In fact, it is the opposite. . This is a difficult aspect, but the couple often meets in this life to try and heal the wound. To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. Am I right? or is the bad guy Nessus only dangerous when in conjonction with Dejanira ? My eros was conjunct someone's mars and I did feel like whenever he was sexual, it was very erotic. Does it matter if he doesnt have pluto in aspect to my venus (mine is 19 Libra)? Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. That is why it feels so life and death. The opposition would be the same but not as locked in or as intense. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. They may cause each other significant pain and strife, but God help any outsider who dares to point it out. If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. In order to post comments, please make sure JavaScript and Cookies are enabled, and reload the page. Now, we come to things that could really make the relationship dark. I only didnt like that its being portrayed as complete truth that will always occur, when its definitely not the case. Come and post the charts. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. No worries. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. It is a pleasure to be here. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Do you see what I mean. You truly made my day! Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? There is always a risk with Eros when he falls on a personal planet of point, and meeting Lilith is the greatest of them. In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring, changing our lives in intense and lasting ways. . The puzzle pieces are coming together for me.. finally. Thank you =). Sydney, you are amazing. He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. Many people say they have overcome things but I watch their actions and see they are lying. I get into this discussion a lot with people. What would that mean? with Dejanira conjunct his natal Saturn, Mars. Sorry if this came off mean, I just dont want people to get scared over having one aspect when astrological interpretations are not set in stone. Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. There is no superficial way to get to know Lilith through the experience of the erotic. I still talk to him to this day and I honestly will never forget how magnetic this relationship was. It took me a minute to think about the wounded bird types, but I think you might be right. Im 30 with a mother that is 32 years older than myself and have never experienced any abuse, and Ive been alive and around my mother long enough to experience it. It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. Im pluto and he is the moon. I know my life, and what manifests in it. I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. I seemed to be destined to study and use Nessus and Deja. Thats like saying everyone with their own natal mars square pluto aspect makes them destined to be molested. and DW : womans Nessus (13 Gemini) opposite mans Juno ( 12 Sag). Does nessus still be working as a tendency to abuse? But I did find out that her Amor conjuncts their Dejanira-Nessus conjunction, so her Dejanira is conjunct her Amor. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. Copyright [the-year] [site-link] | This website is intended for entertainment purposes only. Does this mean anything? I use the term female, but it would be the same for either sex. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! I admire your wisdom. Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. For more context, Nessus/BML dont aspect anything else except a grand trine with Mercury/MC and Jupiter. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. It can be done but it is rare that someone reaches that level of spiritual mastery. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! Thats not the truth. Next: Synastry Books Compared . Moon/Pluto in a trine is very powerful, too. Do you know what these aspects could mean? But interested to see how things unfold. Thanks for your help Amiann. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? Lilith is looking for sacred sex. I came across your blog post and so went through my charts looking for couple friends and this one came up as having the conjunction. Is there anything I can do to help her? What about a mars 8th house overlay also trining pluto? Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. This is a general rule, my Friend. You both feel admiration for each other. When you say one which you contemplate, do you mean that the person is aware of the abuse tendency and tries to deal with it? Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. YOU are the most important person to me. I was thinking that maybe one of the lesser factors could be moon/mars contacts? There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. Do you have their synastry you could post on my Forum? Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Also my true node is at 22 Cancer close to my nessus (conjunction?) I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. For example, I am the moon person and my mars also falls in his 8th and much of what you described for moon/pluto conjunction sounds like us. Positive aspects speak to a generally happy marriage, but there is still karma to be worked out now. Can you relate to it or are just worried in general lol. Deep soul love, incredibly painful at times. Uranus is kink, so you do the math. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. It may be off a few minutes and change things. They are deceiving themselves, would be a better way to say it. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. There are no planets conjunct or square either Nessue or Dejanira in either chart, the only conjunction is her Dejanira to his Nessus. Groom conjunct the Vertex. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. Telling people that something will happen to them because of an aspect is what you in particular FEEL is going to happen, but that is not the truth. Thanks! Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Lets see. Connections between the Vertex and the lunar nodes are also indicators of past life in synastry. When she contacts Eros in another, the answer to that question is found in the heart of a powerfully erotic relationship. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. Two celestial bodies are in conjunction when they are very close to each other, often in the same sign but never more than 8 degrees apart. M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. Thank you again. Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. My Fortuna conjuncts precisely his Dejanira and Moon. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. Who does whom, so to speak? A conjunction is the strongest, but most aspects indicate some type of marriage. Are they married, Lo. Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? Thank you for your response, I appreciate it very much. What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? I generally cannot stand them, and their tendency to be arogant and conceited towards anyone who doesnt think the way they do does come across as downright abusive to me. You made my day, Juice and Welcome! Great questions. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. We talk about it often (3rd house moon overlay) its just a bit overwhelming sometimes like a sweet dream one moment, then an absolute nightmare. I dont mean to, but I think I find issues/hurts of my friends and partners and end up trying to mother them if thats what you meant. I could not agree more with this. I'm so cappy Knowflake . How does that play out? That is why I dont mince words. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. The Nessus is usually the abuser but in this case, it was the son. I have moon opposition pluto. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. . Eros in Synastry seems appropriate to discuss for this time of year. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. I would say that this relationship would be INTENSE but in a beautiful way.Please, tell me about it! If you know, let me know! Same natal chart of a man who is 41-42 years old. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. so, quick question, where do I post it? Thank you, Kay <3 My DEJA in home 6 in opposition to your NESUS in my house 12 to 10 degrees from my ascendant. on Dejanira and Nessus. Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Lilith Conjunct Ascendant Synastry Sun Conjunct Lilith Synastry This connection will burn as hot as the sun! I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. To put it plainly, if you have a dominant Nessus, you will be an abuser. Thats fatalistic and leaves the image that the entire rest of the charts and people themselves are completely victim to two asteroids that are being portrayed as always playing out when they really do not always do so. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. Since Aries is ruled by Mars, there's a . That would be my guess. If I had read this as a 14-16 year old, I wouldve been waiting everyday for my mother to start emotionally, mentally, or physically abusing me, and it would have put me in a constant state of fear because I didnt know much about astrology or how complex and fluid it is. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. It is sad! Also, there is no abuse either way. Powerful, you say? It is opinion, not truth. I should have replied to the previous post, as it was a continuation of the conversation we had started. There are many past life synastry charts that dont show marriage through these 5 obvious aspects, but its clear from reading the whole chart that the pair had a significant relationship in a past life. I am sorry. Eros-Psyche: Eros and Psyche are natural mates. The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. These are too many questions for text. It is really rocking my world right now <3. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. I think her NN is right on his 7th house axis for one. Thank you, It is desire, it is passion and love. Thank you so much, Love. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. I know how important moon moon aspects are to you, Venus pluto aspects Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. Your feelings are not fact. First of all Lilith is for . It would simply be different. Children create their future adult personalities by learning from the adults around them and their interactions, so it makes sense, sadly. As far as the form of abuse, one must look at the sign and the quadriplicity( cardinal, fixed or mutable) One must look at the chart to see how the abuse will play out but I think that abuse will occur in your situation with Nessus conjunct Dejanira. And what about Sun and Pluto contacts in synastry? Considering the sexual aspect of it all, though, I'm betting the pay off was satisfying at least, haha. I suppose you have choice on whether to act on it. If you see Moon oppose or square Pluto, dont play with the person. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. Asteroids touching asteroids are not as powerful as asteroids touching persona; points on the chart such as the ASC, Moon, Sun, Venus etc. Mars conj Saturn is not good. I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. I have BML in my 1st house in Scorpio along with Venus and Saturn All are in conjunction with BML. 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. the Moons will make for best friends. IF the chart does not seem right, then I think the time of birth is off. Sorry for the late reply. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. You are welcome to your opinion but I stand on what I wrote. I do keep finding myself attracted to people who seem to have a strong primal power under the surface, and I dont really feel connected to Pluto myself (I dont know if thats on purpose or simply because its otherwise weakly aspected in my chart). That might be how theyre playing out their Nessus-Dejanira, though Im not sure since they also have a lot of mutual Uranus and Pluto contacts to inner planets and both Ascendants. Pick your top two questions and I will try to help, my Friend! I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. Eros represents our passionate and erotic energy and how we use it. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. Thanks for your posts Ami. Is it relevant? It may be the abuse takes place in the home or within the family. TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. PS I checked the synastry of a man I know for sure was abused by his own father physically and emotionally, throughout his childhood, and this mans Nessus is conjunct his fathers Sun. what would result from this? thanks, M. Super passion unlike few else. In fact, it is the opposite. Will be keeping my wits about me. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. That is the nature of the DSC. I have very wide-orbed Eros-Lilith contacts (not conjunctions) in my two last relationships (they are Eros, I'm Lilith), but both relationships were so 8th house-oriented and Plutonian that it's hard to tell where Lilith comes in. M. What are the exact Sun/pluto aspects Maria? I read some things. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. Please please do Nessus conjunct Lilith in synastry?? The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. I haven't been able to find much discussion about this connection and I'm really interested in hearing stories from other people who've experienced it. This is another clear-cut past life astrology marriage aspect, although it isnt as heavy. Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? The flip side is that when it ends( and it usually does) you could go to jail for homicide. I dont want to assume that having Nessus conj BML means Im going to be abusive in sexual relationships. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. I also found out that my Nessus is 1 degree conjunct my current boyfriends Sun(Cancer). In the conjunction, the planets are next to each other( or on top of each other in the exact conjunction). How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. I have Dejanira in Pisces in the 4H. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. That is why it is so powerful. I had a very intense, psychically damaging and life changing relationship with a man whose Eros was directly conjunct my Lilith, and also more loosely conjunct my Neptune & Descendant. You example above is only if a woman has Dejanira conjunct a mans ASC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, Venus or NN, you will be his victim. Any feedback on the roles being reversed? Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. I have to always be honest. This is not dark sexual, per se. Pluto conjunct Sun synastry indicates a powerful and transformative relationship. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. My mother has her Nessus conjunct my sun and she has it conjunct her own north node, and my Dejanira is conjunct her moon, and there has NEVER been any type of abuse. Pluto trine Venus, Venus quincunx Pluto there is no contact in real life anymore but the connection via the sexual chakra (either sacral or root chakra ) is still there and very strong. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. I appreciate your thoughts on these aspects but I am concerned when any astrologer singles out specific aspects and makes sweeping judgements about charts and how the energies in that chart will be made manifest. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. However, there is a flip side. Mars pluto aspects I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? That is why I, affectionately, call them too hot not to cool down. There are certain aspects I see in these dark,nuclear passion relationships. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. You can think that Im mad that what youre saying is real all you want, but the only thing that bothered me is your fatalistic outlook and claim of truth that is actually not real. Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. Think sitting next to a roaring fire. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. We are mesmerized, enchanted, and even obsessed with this person. It is not good to have a base level view on what will happen with one isolated aspect. The wonderful thing about this aspect, especially with the conjunction is that love is brought into the lives of both, even if . If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. The chart shows the TRUTH. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. The lilith person knows exactly how they effect the ic and can really play with them over time. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. It is valued! 1. If an asteroid is conjunct an angle or a planet, placed in a prominent position, or stands out because of some other reason, it can provide an additional layer of insight in chart analysis. Your analysis is lovely. I wonder what do you think it would happen when nessus conjuncts nessus in synastry. Does the man walk up to you and tell you that he wants to abuse you because you seem like the perfect victim? How will these aspects play out? Hi, Is this a synastry, Ariel? Try to post the charts so see a visual! That is what I was saying. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? xx. Why dont you put up your chart in my Forum and ask your question again. . His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. I dont believe in past lives, Lo. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. Hi! If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. We do not have enough information on every aspect, and never will because again, no interpretation is set in stone to be able to tell someone that something is most certainly going to happen. my mars is there too though, trining his Scorpio pluto 0.25 we have physical heat but plenty of fighting. That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. 8. To me, it always is. Finding Jesus is all that really matters in life. He has pholus conjunct dejanira, all on my BML exact. Youll have to use your judgement here. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Eros in synastry Tell me, what is it like? This would be once in a lifetime kind of intense and tender. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. That`s very interesting information. Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. A later relationship was abusive (a psychopath) His Nessus square my Sun The charts tell all. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. Moon conjunct pluto Im composite and moon in 12th house composite (our feelings were a secret for a long time as we didnt know how we felt and were not able to be together for a long time). His 8th house Nessus is conjunct my 7th house Dejanira (2s), opposite my moon (-1s) and square my mercury (2a). I am curious about the dejanira/nessus aspects. Nessus and Dejanira do most certainly not mean abuse. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. Thank you for this information! My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). I think there are very few people who actually manage to overcome childhood abuse, and not without a long painful journey and negative experiences. What do you think? Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. You don't need to BELIEVE in Jesus to come here and/or to contact me. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving.
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