This particular bottle was made at plant number 7 (Alton, Illinois). If the design was popular it is possible they were produced for some years after 1932. Hi Samanda, The numbers are likely mold identifying codes . similarly named "Pharmaceutical and Proprietary Division" products.). Best regards, You can find out more about which cookies we are using or switch them off in settings. William Franzen & Sons- W F & S MIL marking on base of amber beer bottle. The diamond looks too small to add anything inside of it. This is for a large pickle jar. Owens-Illinois made large quantities of these kinds of clear glass prescription/medicine bottles, in a wide range of sizes. Many soda bottles (especially) of the 1910s to 1950s often have initials in large lettering on the bottoms. Im guessing the number 4 indicates the plant in Clarksburg, W.V., the one that interests me is the M258270. Ive yet to see one that wasnt. The term "OnIzed" is mentioned throughout the listings portion (majority) of I would guess either 1954 or 1964. The 7 below the logo is a mold number. Although 56 is not listed in the permit code document you have shared, I read in several of your responses that it was OIs permit number for their Charleston, WV facility. ~David, You have to love the internet, as I just found information on a bottle I found years ago. Hi Tom, the 65 is probably a date code for 1965. I cant figure it out can you please help? Very good condition. Cassandra, I believe you are right about the 51 date code, although it may not be possible to be 100% sure about the 2 date code on the other jar it could theoretically stand for 1952. Do you think this might be from 1933? the "Owens-Illinois Plants" at the time with illustrations of those plants. Perhaps someone out there will have better info and can chime in on this question! Im just curious if you are able to help me determine when my jar was made. Dont know what 3-H indicates. Often these types of mold numbers might be more accurately termed design numbers or inventory numbers or catalog numbers or model numbers or bottle style numbers. (Remove underscore within first part of address). Bottle Catalog One of the best sources for determining bottle types based on the shape are old glass/bottle makers catalogs. The following is an edited version of Hope this helps! I have a Duraglas bottle-quart size-with the Duraglass logo on the bottom along with 17 top left- 51 top right- a capital A in the middle left. On the bottom it has the symbol of a sideways diamond, an 0, and an I inside the 0, like the symbol showed in your article. The cap is 2 and 1/2 inch and then the bottle widens. Although Owens-Illinois has made containers of many different shades of color over the years, the great majority of glass bottles commonly found (especially older containers that show up often at flea markets, antique malls, yard sales, junk shops, ebay, etc) are found in clear (colorless), green (emerald, forest green or seven up green) and amber (beer bottle brown) glass. 9 on the right side 1939? These bottles are believed to date from approximately 1915, and probably were made up to circa 1929 at which time Illinois Glass Company merged with the Owens Bottle Company (based in Toledo, Ohio) to form Owens-Illinois Glass Company. Then below that 1845. Klamath Falls, Oregon The 56 indicates the liquor bottle was made at their Charleston, West Virginia plant. other particular glass/bottle maker. The neck is fairly short and bulges slightly in the middle and the top is threaded for a twist off type cap (that I do not have). It is generally agreed by researchers that the I inside an O mark used by Owens-Illinois was instituted beginning in 1954, and no earlier. Dating glass coke bottles He takes bottle somewhere if it does include an image of the best antique coke by erika franz. bclc lotto app not working; signs your internship will turn into a job; mary suehr schmitz. David. page (which was signed by several dozen workers and/or management) (10% off), Sale Price USD 26.99 KY.G.W. Value is subjective, but since these are common jars, typically they might have 50 cents to a dollar or two value to jar collectors. If not when did it stop? List of Web Links pointing to some other sites / interests ~ (Most of these sites are not glass-related) including Birds, Trees, Fishing, Antiques, Transferware, Blue Willow Pattern Dishes, Coins, Religion, Marine Traffic, VintageAerial, WheresGeorge, Amsterdam, Ohio River info and more! The O-I mark (being the third major trademark embossed on the companys glass containers) was officially registered by the United States Patent & Trademark Office on March 20, 2007, under registration #3219434. Near the bottom side of the bottle it says KANKAKEE BOTTLING WORKS. NOTE: any bottle which is also marked with the brand name/ trademark DURAGLAS dates from 1940 or after, never before that year. David. Russ Hoenig noted the So I gather plant 7 Alton ill., mold 14, which seems unique. Hi Kim, There are many little dots along the base and the direct bottom of the bottle. On the bottom, there is the diamond logo. I dug up multiple old bottles. catalog pages) - Includes wicker covered bottles (still doing this in the On the bottom of the second it has the symbol with a 9 to the left, 51 to the right and 4 under the symbol. Lastly the others (both 2) have a circle in a square on one and just 3 bumpson the other but otherwise seam identical. I can send pictures if needed. The top is a screw top and its got like a indicresiant coat on it and its clear, Lindsey, the weird 3 symbol stands for ounce so your bottle is a 2 oz. B in a diamond mark on inside of Star & Dewdrop master salt dish in vaseline glass, made in 1994. There is a seven on either side of the diamond and what appears to be a backwards 4 under the logo. It might be a plant location code. types, cottage cheese and sour cream jars, store bottles, milk bottle finishes, I have noticed this.. Nearly anywhere and everywhere throughout our country, modern era trash can be found, even in the middle of nowhere where there seems to be no logical reason for it being there. The trademark is DURAGLAS which was introduced in 1940. It has the diamond with the circle & I on the bottom. The 6 is a date code which would have indicated 1936, 1946 or 1956. Thanks very much for your post! /Users/owner/Pictures/Photos Library.photoslibrary/resources/derivatives/F/F13F0744-72A4-4CAA-BA9E-90DE43898225_1_105_c.jpeg The 12 is a mold number. end of File #10 above.) Without seeing the base code markings, it could theoretically be earlier or later (depending on what glass company made it, and if there is glassmaker mark and/or date code on the bottle). Specifically, betty boop . Bottle. is 6. It also shows some of those "old familiar shapes" with the relatively We are using cookies to give you the best experience on our website. David, I dont believe that the presence or absence of a period after a date code can give absolute evidence on which decade is meant.. I found several bottles. Near the opposite edge of the bottle is a larger G 11. Can you tell me how old the bottle is? I found info online about Owens-Illinois purchasing the plant in 2015, which was formerly called Bennu Glass. Perhaps the bottle mold itself was originally used at the Fairmount plant? It is not completely round as it has flat angles coming off of the flat bottom but then becomes rounded on top so is neither completely round nor completes a hexagon. Any ideas would be very much appreciated. It appears to have a screw top. ~David. Randy, Im sorry but I dont know anything about these particular bottles. Please click here to go to my website Home Page. Did you ever find what the letter F stands for? The 2 would probably be a date code for 1962 or 1972. Hi Russell, The 55 is a liquor bottle permit number, and by checking a list of liquor codes online (here is a pdf file https://sha.org/bottle/pdffiles/LiquorBottlePermits.pdf It is shaped like an old lemon juice bottle. catalog pages) - Includes an introduction followed by milk bottles of various Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. The Design patent number 90023 was issued in 1933, but I cannot say with absolute certainty when your bottle was made. Owens-Illinois Glass Company trademark/logo Diamond Oval- I entwined. The M-889A is almost certainly an identification number assigned to that particular bottle design (or bottle mold) by Owens-Illinois. * within all important bottle type categories of any bottle maker at that time. To be honest, it doesnt really matter much what can be discerned in the center of the diamond and oval mark, since on MANY bottles the I (which is supposed to be there) is frequently absent, smeared, distorted or just halfway visible! with Heres How on them. It also has blow holes throughout the glass.also appears to be like a 3 mold design but the #s appear to be backwards Hi Kelly, The oval symbol with the diamond is on the bottom but nothing else inside of that. On some bottles this mark is very tiny or indistinct, often looking like a small 0 (a zero, or the letter O) with the I in the center hard to discern. marks on antique bottles & fruit jars (Mississippi, Missouri, Modes), Milk Glass~ Vintage Cold Cream, Salve & Ointment Containers, N in a square mark Obear-Nester Glass Company, East St. Louis, IL, New Albany Glass Works, New Albany, Indiana (1867-1872), Newark Star Glass Works, Newark, Ohio (1873-1904), Ohio Valley Glass Company, Pleasant City, Ohio (1902-1905), Owens Bottle Company (O in a square mark), Reed & Company, Massillon, Ohio (1881-1904), Rawleighs W. T. Rawleighs / Freeport, Illinois, Robin in Tree childrens mug Bryce Brothers & Mosser Glass Company, S G mark on glass containers Saint-Gobain / Verallia, Southern Glass Works, Louisville, Kentucky (1877-c.1885), Surname-oriented Antique Bottle Collecting, Target Balls (Antique Glass Target Balls), Thatcher Glass Manufacturing Company (c.1904-1985), Vaseline Jars / Chesebrough Manufg Company, Wax Sealer Fruit Jars List of Primary Markings, Whitall Tatum Company, Millville, New Jersey, Whittemore Boston U.S.A. / Antique Shoe Polish Bottles, WEB LINKS to some other sites / other interests (Not glass-related). comm. $7.95 shipping. It has helped greatly with bottle identification. consult the following references: Questions pertaining to the products of the Owens-Illinois Glass Co. mold numbers. I am unsure what that 65 would be as the info Ive read here says the logo should be the I/O only if that date code means 1965. Bill, Bill, Im not familiar with the bottle, but Owens-Illinois has made tens of thousands of different bottles over the years. Please double-check those folders in your email app/program after a few days if you haven't heard from me!! The design was patented July 16, 1935. in 1935.). Below that is a single 9. I just purchased an apothecary bottle from an antique store with a lot of wonderful markings, and decided to start with the makers mark first because I thought it would be easiest. Thank you. 29 One H.J. Honestly, Im not sure what the M258270 indicates. And below that is E 2143. Why would it be marked by two different companies? Since your jug dates from 1952, thats an instance of a relatively recent mold error. PopScreen - Video Search, Bookmarking and Discovery Engine. The Leading Glass Bottle Manufacturer Owens-Illinois | O-I Crafting the Iconic Wine: Drusian Traditional oak glass color combined with an extraordinary shaped bottle. I honestly dont know. Like I said it looks like the patented bottle but then it has the additions to it. 2018). towards the back of the catalog. Underneath in an arc formation is DES. Details: the bottom of the jug has the O-I diamond, 23 on the right side and 4 on the left. this passage (image to the right) shows what is noted in the second The 42 is a code for the year 1942. and between sections. The D89 is the distiller code number. I did a search on ebay and found a couple listings with that number embedded in their item descriptions. bottles, chili sauces, salad dressing, cocktail sauce, club sauces, olive oils, Other marks include ILLINOIS, a brand name apparently used for a line of prescription bottles (similar to their bottles marked OWENS); DURAGLAS a trademark used after 1940 which is embossed on innumerable bottles of many types; and LOWEX another brand name which was used for their borosilicate glass formula employed especially for power line insulators. It has the Diamond & Oval w/capital I marking on the bottom with a #7 to the left, #4 to the right & #4 below. reference to "The selection of containers for the new products of distillers For instance, if the bottle also carries the DURAGLAS brand, we can be sure it was made after 1940, the year Duraglas was introduced. To left of the symbol is number 12. From reading your page Im guessing this bottle was made in the Oakland factory? (O-I) end of year report, under Any idea what the date of manufacture could be? As pictured, it can vary slightly from one container to another. It is in a plastic container that also says iw Harper on it. That sounds like one of their regular line of modern canning/fruit jars. lore of their employers. If there is a diamond as part of the logo, the date would be 1946. 1926 "B" catalog being the update to the 1920 "A" version which was an update of Thank you David for all the information/help! David. Bottles and jars with single-digit dates can be distinguished by whether or not there is a period after the date. There are a number of them also listed on ebay and I was trying to see some of the base pics (uploaded by sellers) of other examples of that bottle. medicinal bottles. Catalogs, invoices and other company paperwork would have listed that number to identify the bottle type. There may be some slight correlation with Hilex as far as the general appearance of the container, although perhaps not. Bottle in a load of dirt from 4th st Chickasha, Ok. Its a clear thick glass for a prescription bottle. Manufactured in Charleston West Va. ? David. The base is marked with the H over smaller a logo. I dont have definite info on the other markings. I suspect your particular bottle was made in 1939. On the bottom there is a nine, the letter I with a circle around it, the numbers 62 and below the capital I another nine. We found a I.W. Hi Brian, Im just curious which year the 5 stands for. I hope this helps! It says Chicago, IL with an S on the bottom. With a 3 date code and the later I inside an O mark, your jar may date from 1963. Does this mean its from 1989 or something else ? Bottom engrossment reads 7 0 with a 7. underneath. catalog pages) - Additional introductory information including a mold number index and Can you help me date it? They are probably medicine bottles of some sort. 6\" tall. mark on antique glass bottles & jars, Letter L in cursive script mark: Libbey Glass Company, Liquor Bottle Permit Numbers Numerical List, Lynchburg Glass Corporation, Lynchburg, Virginia, M inside a circle: Maryland Glass Corporation, Baltimore, MD, MASONS PATENT NOV 30TH 1858 Fruit Jars Summary, Maywood Glass Company, Compton, California (1930-1959) ~ MG Connected mark, McLaughlin Glass Company, Vernon, California, M.G.CO. Im simply not sure about the interpretation of the base numbers in the case of your water bottle. On the bottom is the regular capital I in the O with the elongated diamond.. To the left of the that is a 7 to the right a 2 with NO period and there is no stippling or bumps. File #2: Introductory Information and beginning of bottle styles (24 I have two of these: one is a 2 oz size marked Lyric on the bottom, while the other, a 1/2 oz size, is marked Illinois on the bottom with the Illinois Glass Cos I inside a diamond. Hazel-Atlas H over A trademark on the front of clear Atlas Mason jar. It is a 9 fl oz clear glass bottle, it has raised cursive letters saying sanitary brand and then next to it not in cursive says sanitary bottling works also raised, in the middle of the bottle. Hello Dawn, Thank you. Atterbury EASTLAKE bird mug in pink alabaster or pink clambroth, made circa early to mid-1880s. What does the 2 to the right with NO period mean, maybe 1932?? Thanks for the link. $9.99. Also, it wouldnt be 1965 since by that time the mark no longer carried the diamond. Hi.. The M-89 A may be pertaining to the bottle design/style. Division" products (18 catalog pages) - Includes a few more toilet I honestly dont know for sure. Im sorry I couldnt figure out how to ask a new question so its attached to this as a reply. In your case I suspect the 3 is a mold number, not a plant code. David. (25% off), Sale Price USD 29.87 Plus, one pharmaceutical medicine bottle labeled Owens on the bottom. You will notice they appear to be the same shape, even though the glass color may be clear or green, and some are different brands. and molded closures for the O-I products. looks like a diamond in an oval with 0 9 on either side. I have a Duraglas 4/5 Quart bottle with 6 on left, I inside O logo, 6 on the right and a 27 centered underneath the I/O logo. Antique Owens Glass 3iu 80cc Clear Glass Apothecary Medicine Bottle 5.25" Tall Sponsored $24.95 Free shipping Antique Medical Cross Shaker Bottle 1930s Scarce Deco Piece $14.99 + $9.85 shipping Antique Embossed Glass Bottle Konjola Mosby Medical Co Cincinnati 1920s-1930s $14.99 + $11.45 shipping With your information, I found the design patent on the web with a google search. One of the best sources for determining bottle types based David, Ya my son just found a bottle about 6 in tall that looks like a small clear wine bottle possibly . Your explanation of the markings on the bottom do not seem to relate to the jar I have. The letter-numbers code is an inventory ID (style or design number) used in catalogs or invoices between Owens-Illinois and the end user company. Best regards, On the bottom of the first one it has the symbol with a 9 to the left, 2 to the right (looks like an S honestly) and a 6 under the symbol. The mark you see on the base is often called an Owens ring or Owens scar, produced during manufacture by machine. The 6 is a plant location code for Charleston, West Virginia.